Monday, May 17, 2010

Chatoe Rogue First Growth Dirtoir Black Lager

Tonight I'm drinking Chatoe Rogue First Growth Dirtoir Black Lager brewed by Rogue Ales in Newport, Oregon. Yes, that's two days in a row for them, with MoM Hefeweizen yesterday! I've had this for a few months. While praying for a great beer, I've had this chip on my shoulder that this beer wasn't going to be that good. B.A. "Bad Attitude" Baracus, if you will. Oh, now I know where the B and A come from at Beer Advocate. Just teasing, actually, since I check out that site once in a while, like yesterday--you saw because you clicked that link above. But I've read around the circuit some really nasty comments about BA, their founders, and most of all their forums, which are supposedly full of snotty and stuck up beer assholes. Anyway, just crossed my mind. I don't really have an opinion, believe it or not. Tell me yours.

The label is cool! It has a hand holding some hops and barley (if my non-farm knowledge identification is correct), but the hand is actually a cut-out from the white label, seeing into the black beer (or empty) through the brown bottle. "Grow the Revolution!" The top of the label is ringed with GYO [checkmark] eleven times plus an extra GYO at the end for good measure. GYO is a Rogue term for "Grow Your Own" and refers here to the fact that they used their own home-grown hops and barley. "Dedicated to Farmers and Fermenters."

The head on this beer was the coolest milk chocolate brown, with dashing ruby-red flecks sparkling in it; super-fine bubbles, too. Pretty neat! Nice aroma as well with malty dark chocolate, brown sugar and a hint of coffee. Roasty-malosty beer, wow! Roasted malty everywhere, burnt coffee beans, and a hint of chocolate. Creamy high-level carbonation. Not sweet like the aroma; rather, hoppy with a touch of licorice and dark cherry fruit. Intense! And then even more intense when a good dose of smoke fills your mouth! My bad attitude is gone, at least about this beer, and I thought this was pretty tasty all around. If you are a big ROASTED or SMOKEY fan, well you should have already picked up this beer! Since it has crossed my mind like four times in the past twenty minutes, I think that this beer would be an awesome beer to cook with, although my creative beer in food skilz are somewhat lacking. Anyone?

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Lost said...

Re: B.A.

I've heard the horror stories. I've never experienced them myself. Note that I do not spend time on the B.A. forums.

Next month I am volunteering at the American Craft Beer Festival that the BA folks are putting on. I'm hoping to meet some new people in the Boston beer scene, but I'll also get a good chance to get a bead on the real feel of the folks who make up BA.

As a former long-time forum moderator of various sites, I can say that you really can't control what happens on a forum unless it is outright illegal, discriminatory, etc. The beer scene is full of douche-bags, which are all the more likely to get on the BA forums...there is nothing that BA can do about it.


Beer Drinker Rob said...

Yeah, I haven't been around those forums, so I don't know the details about the accusations, either. There are jerks everywhere. I'm sure you'll find great people at the event you are attending.

Brandon said...

B.A. is terrible. I was on the site for 2 days and was banned because they didn't like a beer review I gave. I'll never go back to the site again.

Beer Drinker Rob said...

Hmmm. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement! LOL.